tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1843426103950643279.post744247108935534780..comments2023-07-12T12:34:46.767+10:00Comments on AJN Watch: Guest Post by Kosherman: A Concise History of Kashrut in Post-War AustraliaAJN WATCHhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02706063020449126800noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1843426103950643279.post-29040703989851965392010-01-25T23:59:47.174+11:002010-01-25T23:59:47.174+11:00Funny chap is anon of Jan 25. He/she/it complains ...Funny chap is anon of Jan 25. He/she/it complains about anonymity and then does the same thing.<br />I would say that 95% of bloggers and commenters on the web are anonymous. But this bother anyone - the main thing is the message. And the important ones get through.<br /><br />There is a lot of valuable material here on Ahnwatch which would never have been published if the writers had been required to identify themselves. So i say to the people behind this blog - keep up the good work. Most of us really appreciate your effort.gamzu letovahnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1843426103950643279.post-64935126767009993132010-01-25T17:34:45.264+11:002010-01-25T17:34:45.264+11:00Hey Kosherman, your posts are not kosher to me bec...Hey Kosherman, your posts are not kosher to me because 1) you refuse to reveal your identity giving you zero credibility 2) why should anyone believe anything you write is anything other than loshon hora.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1843426103950643279.post-27339495908789295432009-11-01T10:03:10.929+11:002009-11-01T10:03:10.929+11:00While most of what Kosherman says is correct the h...While most of what Kosherman says is correct the his personal opinion kept getting in the way of the facts. It would have been nice to read a factual history of Kashrus without the bias.<br /><br />I do agree very strongly that only one Kashrus authority in a city takes away from the stringency and quality of kashrus. Sydney under their one authority has seen quite a few scandals and their standard is much less than Kosher Australia or Adass.<br /><br />Kosherman should also be careful about commenting on the level of kashrus of different authorities. I know of at least 2 cases where Kosher Australia would not give a hechsher to products that Adass said was kosher due to KA's interpretation of halacha.<br /><br />My last comment is about Kashrus supervision in general. Anyone who has worked in Kashrus for more than a few days knows that the Rav Hamachshir has very little to do with the actual kashrus of the product or function. The mashgiach is the one who really controls what is going into our mouth. If the mashgiach is lazy or not attentive to what is going on then there could be dire consequences no matter how holy the Rav of the kashrus organisation.Naftolihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05600626655648504428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1843426103950643279.post-56494191144958728422009-10-23T01:16:44.368+11:002009-10-23T01:16:44.368+11:00Is that store still around? And is it operated by ...Is that store still around? And is it operated by the same people?<br />If so, maybe go in and have a chat with them about your experience. Hopefully they have cleaned up their act by now. But if not, they should be made aware that consumers are on to them.Mother of Bar Mitzva boynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1843426103950643279.post-9586387333527696462009-10-22T14:00:10.707+11:002009-10-22T14:00:10.707+11:00No, it did not occur to me at the time to go back ...No, it did not occur to me at the time to go back to the shop because a number of years had passed since they were purchased, and also I didn't have my receipt, etc.<br /><br />I would consider going now anyway, but I no longer have the teffilin, they have since been put into geniza.Michaelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1843426103950643279.post-88511230109430613532009-10-21T01:05:23.066+11:002009-10-21T01:05:23.066+11:00Michael, did you go back to that Judaica shop and ...Michael, did you go back to that Judaica shop and demand your money back? If so, what happened?<br /><br />It is your duty, having been a victim of such a dusgusting and fraudulent sale, to ensure that no one else falls into teh same trap. <br />You should publicise your story to the rabbinical association as well as the COSV.Mother of Bar Mitzva boynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1843426103950643279.post-17157444766689923872009-10-21T01:02:50.838+11:002009-10-21T01:02:50.838+11:00I think anyone who wishes to purchase tefillin or ...I think anyone who wishes to purchase tefillin or for that matter mezuzos etc, should speak to one of the local respected rabbanim, eg Rabbi Wurzburger, Donnenbaum, Beck about ensuring that they are getting the kosher item - and also value for their money. I have been told that Rabbi Heimlich of Adass is an expert on such matters and he replies to many shaalos.<br /><br />By reputation Eli Gutnick is a decent and reliable sofer as well.<br /><br />But there are many frauds in israel who market passul items and many reach the Australian market. Caveat Emptor.Dovidnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1843426103950643279.post-642415487486719882009-10-20T12:14:16.298+11:002009-10-20T12:14:16.298+11:00What about having some rabbinic supervision on Tef...What about having some rabbinic supervision on Tefillin and mezuzos being sold by our Judaica shops? I bought my first pair of tefillin in good faith from a well known Judaica shop in Melbourne (and they weren't cheap either). When I went overseas to yeshivah some years later I was told that they were never kosher to begin with!Michaelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1843426103950643279.post-36958215836165541892009-10-16T03:01:16.878+11:002009-10-16T03:01:16.878+11:00The best kosher sushi in Melbourne is supervised b...The best kosher sushi in Melbourne is supervised by Rabbi Rabi in a carlisle St shop. Try it,sushi gourmandnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1843426103950643279.post-70428371702099728142009-10-15T22:45:26.998+11:002009-10-15T22:45:26.998+11:00Strawberry, I apologise for my omission. It was, o...Strawberry, I apologise for my omission. It was, of course, unintentional. I have at times followed the KCA forum and indeed it is extremely useful for Kosher consumers. Maybe a Melb branch should be created as well - or somehow get Melbournians to join on to the KCA.Koshermannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1843426103950643279.post-90318433498217940942009-10-15T20:52:03.130+11:002009-10-15T20:52:03.130+11:00It is always helpful to take a long view of matter...It is always helpful to take a long view of matters in the community and kosherman has covered a lot of important territory, if not all of it. AJN could do worse than ask their religious affairs editor, Yossi Aaron to write a piece on the subject, because he remembers much of it.<br />A significant omission is mention of the Sydney grass roots group Kosher Consumers Association or KCA.[KCA_Sydney@yahoogroups.com]. For 16 years, a group of dedicated volunteers have worked with established halachic authorities, both Australian and foreign, to provide information, lower prices and more varieties of kosher foods. They run an kosher email forum for members, communicating with manufacturers and retailers. They have assisted shops identify kosher products,as well as those not in store that are needed, and have placed updated in-store KA Directories. <br /><br />The KCA is an independent 'not-for-profit' consumer group. It aims to promote kashrut and support its observance. It provides information of relevance to kashrut observance, obtaining answers to members' questions and lobbying for a greater range of kosher products at prices equivalent to comparable non-kosher goods. Over 600 families support and benefit from their work. They deserve acknowledgement.s_for _strawberrynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1843426103950643279.post-28032441466909089152009-10-15T17:22:12.513+11:002009-10-15T17:22:12.513+11:00Steinwasser says
Rabbi Shlomo Rudzki also provide...Steinwasser says<br /><br />Rabbi Shlomo Rudzki also provided Kosher certification in Melbourne, as far as I know, for various catering businesses. I believe he was also a member of the Beth Din. His certificate continued for almost all his long life and is now continued as Kosher VeYosher by Rabbi Meir G Rabi and is claimed to be the oldest continuous Kosher Authority in AustraliaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1843426103950643279.post-25037153750577051782009-10-15T15:19:07.341+11:002009-10-15T15:19:07.341+11:00Best post ever!!Best post ever!!Jenny of Dover Heightsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1843426103950643279.post-15100014632913809002009-10-15T13:59:15.480+11:002009-10-15T13:59:15.480+11:00I have been following AJNWATCH almost since its in...I have been following AJNWATCH almost since its inception and congratulate you for giving a voice to authentic Jewish views. This has been sorely lacking as even our rabbis (except for 1 or 2) are afraid to firmly express the Devar Hashem. Some think it will hurt their kiruv efforts whilst others don't wish to offend their membership. Your blog is filling this void and I thank you for it.<br /><br />But I was especially pleased to read the informative and enlightenling post of kosherman.<br />I learned more about kashrus in Australia than I have ever known before. Yasher Koach - Kosherman.Bondimannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1843426103950643279.post-1289347897619556962009-10-15T13:52:24.393+11:002009-10-15T13:52:24.393+11:00A very good post. Please Kosherman, either create ...A very good post. Please Kosherman, either create your blog fast, or send in another post. Most of us in our 20s and and 30s know absolutely nothing about earlier kashrus in AustPeternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1843426103950643279.post-22052258980715460852009-10-15T13:45:22.967+11:002009-10-15T13:45:22.967+11:00Chayim, you may well be right. These things happen...Chayim, you may well be right. These things happened a few decades ago and I was constantly moving between Melb and Sydney, so my recollections may be a bit hazy. But I was under the impression that for a while both Adass and Yeshiva had their own shechita.Koshermannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1843426103950643279.post-41235635115417981522009-10-15T13:07:57.227+11:002009-10-15T13:07:57.227+11:00This post by Kosherman is quite informative, but i...This post by Kosherman is quite informative, but is heavily Melbourne-centric. S/he is a tad misinformed about the Sydney situation.<br /><br />1. The Yeshiva Centre took over kashrus from Adass in the 1970s when the latter was without a rabbi. A rabbi was needed to be the authority so the head of Yeshiva was approached. However, when Adass eventually appointed a rabbi, the Yeshiva declined to return kashrus to the Adass.<br /><br />2. Kashrus in NSW is now signficantly better resourced than when there were the separate Sydney Beth Din and the Yeshiva Rabbinate supervisions. The professionalism is far superior to what it was, and there are many more products available and there are more mehadrin standards than in the past, particularly with regard to the use of mehadrin oils by caterers, etc.<br /><br />3. The heavy cost of kosher functions in Sydney does not, in my opinion, stem from the supervision fees. Even if these were to be reduced, the unfortunate monopoly of quality kosher catering in Sydney by Passion8 means that they effectively can dictate the price.<br /><br />Chayim A.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com