tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1843426103950643279.post5371393269722970480..comments2023-07-12T12:34:46.767+10:00Comments on AJN Watch: Community Unity? Sydney KA gives Melbourne's Shechita a serve!AJN WATCHhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02706063020449126800noreply@blogger.comBlogger49125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1843426103950643279.post-14575321504910472842010-06-02T15:06:50.710+10:002010-06-02T15:06:50.710+10:00CONGRATULATIONS TO AJN WATCH!
The new letter from...CONGRATULATIONS TO AJN WATCH!<br /><br />The new letter from KA although it is not an apology at least they have backed down to some degree, is a credit for your public forum where the community can voice their opinions without fear.<br /><br />Maybe the Monopoly will eventually be broken and more people will be able to afford Kosher.Bondi Boynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1843426103950643279.post-55145895483257468292010-06-02T08:07:24.125+10:002010-06-02T08:07:24.125+10:00Yechi!
Are you for realYechi! <br />Are you for realAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1843426103950643279.post-50840076147624553772010-06-01T23:00:06.372+10:002010-06-01T23:00:06.372+10:00To Moshiach Now!
Shame on the way you write!
You ...To Moshiach Now!<br /><br />Shame on the way you write!<br />You can't be a chosid by backing a Misnaged!!Yechinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1843426103950643279.post-15607510315316578482010-06-01T22:58:04.976+10:002010-06-01T22:58:04.976+10:00You fellows are all crazy! Rabbi Gutnick is a chos...You fellows are all crazy! Rabbi Gutnick is a chosid and the backbone of Kashrus. He follows in the Rebbe shlitas footsteps to further yiddishkeit and kashrus in our city.<br /><br />You are all a jealous bunch!Yechinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1843426103950643279.post-82403528396218953352010-06-01T17:38:48.390+10:002010-06-01T17:38:48.390+10:00If these Rabbis treat Kashrut as they do Unity and...If these Rabbis treat Kashrut as they do Unity and truth, then G-D help us all.Moshiach Now!noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1843426103950643279.post-69951428932682607232010-06-01T12:51:50.998+10:002010-06-01T12:51:50.998+10:00The Rabbis of KA have been claiming that it is aga...The Rabbis of KA have been claiming that it is against Halacha to sell meat to another town that has a shechita (Shechita Chutz), as an excuse to keep their monopoly. So why is the KA selling their chickens in Melbourne and why do the wives of some of these Rabbis purchase cold cuts from Melbourne.<br />Sounds like double standards!Bondi Boynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1843426103950643279.post-86870320084209854032010-06-01T06:28:00.428+10:002010-06-01T06:28:00.428+10:00Harry Freedman is spot on!
But if we don't bre...Harry Freedman is spot on!<br />But if we don't break this monopoly now, less and less will be able to afford Kosher.<br />A friend of our recently had a Bar Mitzvah catered at a non Kosher venue as it was signifintaly cheaper.<br />Apparently Melbourne has 4 seperate supervision bodies. The result, higher standards and cheaper prices.<br /><br />The Monopoly must be broken and the Jewish Board of Deputies must audit the books of the Kashrut Authority.Shtiebel Yidnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1843426103950643279.post-3373504615696635732010-06-01T06:18:01.113+10:002010-06-01T06:18:01.113+10:00Could Rabbis Rogut, Feldman,Ulman, Laurence and Gu...Could Rabbis Rogut, Feldman,Ulman, Laurence and Gutnick please advise the community how often they have visited the slaughterhouse to oversee the shechita process as every Rabbi involved in Kashrut should.<br /><br />I hope their roles are more than signing letters attacking others.David from Melbournenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1843426103950643279.post-3671317435941203452010-06-01T01:31:32.828+10:002010-06-01T01:31:32.828+10:00the Kashruth Authority (KA) was subject to detaile...the Kashruth Authority (KA) was subject to detailed and critical investigation from the Trade Pratices Authority a few years ago. (TPA).<br />the TPA made some critical findings but declined to make any orders however "recommended" significant changes in the way the KA operated. I am not aware that any of those recommendations were adopted.<br />The operators of the KA have not been elected by the community at large and therefore do not speak for the community. Anyone who is interested in KAshruth should voice their opinions in this regard before final decisions are made.<br />As far as Sydney is concerned keeping Kosher has become significantly more expensive over the years and now we do not even have a formal Kosher restaurant in a city of around 30,000 Jews.<br />we have an opportunity which has opened the door for a full debate on who controls the industry of Kashrut in this country and whether they are performing appropriately.<br /><br />we should use this opportunity to have a debate.<br />I feel the AJN is the appropriate vehicle to do so<br /><br />harry freedmanH. Freedmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1843426103950643279.post-16998940311739844872010-05-31T23:08:02.174+10:002010-05-31T23:08:02.174+10:00TEAL LAKES OWNERS IN NEW YORK HAVE RECENTLY ASKED ...TEAL LAKES OWNERS IN NEW YORK HAVE RECENTLY ASKED A PROMINENT MELBOURNE RABBI TO ADD HIS SUPERVISION TO THE ONE OF RMG ON THEIR WINES!Bondi Boynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1843426103950643279.post-50822821108525613612010-05-31T23:05:05.518+10:002010-05-31T23:05:05.518+10:00RULES OF THE JUNGLE!
If your surname starts with ...RULES OF THE JUNGLE!<br /><br />If your surname starts with the letter 'G' then you are entitled to give private Hashgachos - but if your surname starts with a 'S' then you cannot.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1843426103950643279.post-31347856377651822862010-05-31T19:47:10.250+10:002010-05-31T19:47:10.250+10:00A friend emailed me this blog last night.
Today I...A friend emailed me this blog last night.<br /><br />Today I met the wife of one of the signatories of the letter at Krinskys. In her basket were 2 packets of cold cuts from Melbourne. I asked her if your husbands has signed a letter to stop us all using Melbourne meat how come you can buy it. <br />She answered that her husband has not told her not to!confused Sydney housewife.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1843426103950643279.post-70693942364081272032010-05-31T17:49:19.343+10:002010-05-31T17:49:19.343+10:00IApparently a list of many, points will be distrib...IApparently a list of many, points will be distributed by the 3 Kashrus organizations in Melbourne proving that the Shechitas in Melbourne are of a far higher standard.<br />Apparently in Sydney Shechita is performed at times with only a single shochet. <br /><br />Apractice that would never happen in Israel, USA or Melbourne!David of Melbournenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1843426103950643279.post-6317338755386167452010-05-31T17:45:26.401+10:002010-05-31T17:45:26.401+10:00WOW!!
I hear that Sydney is practically the only ...WOW!!<br /><br />I hear that Sydney is practically the only place in the world where at times the shochet slaughters without a second shochet or Mashgiach being there.<br /><br />The OU says such meat should not be eaten!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1843426103950643279.post-29803652044929485582010-05-31T15:28:02.723+10:002010-05-31T15:28:02.723+10:00To the following commentators:
Anonymous, Belinda,...To the following commentators:<br />Anonymous, Belinda, Vashti (x3) and Hersh.<br /><br />Please reread what you have written. Far too personal. Comments that you would not make directly to those you name.<br />If you have an observation, please make it without disparagement. <br /><br />- THE MODERATORS (who are trying to keep it civil.)AJN WATCHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02706063020449126800noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1843426103950643279.post-82706993436378467132010-05-31T14:43:20.873+10:002010-05-31T14:43:20.873+10:00My take on this whole thing:
http://img248.images...My take on this whole thing:<br /><br />http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/9076/48616436.jpgAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1843426103950643279.post-81669201494291041752010-05-31T13:51:52.889+10:002010-05-31T13:51:52.889+10:00From reading the comments, there seems to be a lot...From reading the comments, there seems to be a lot of anger at the KA. However, from reading the announcement again, it appears all it is saying that the claim that meat is not sufficiently kosher by KA, and Melbourne meat is somehow more reliable is false. <br /><br />No comment has really addressed the arguments raised in the announcement or that the conclusions of Rabbi Rotenberg are not correct, and I suspect the reason is, because the readers are not halachically qualified to do so.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1843426103950643279.post-55528161821824230762010-05-31T13:45:45.637+10:002010-05-31T13:45:45.637+10:00Rabbi Rotenberg found that chickens in Melbourne a...Rabbi Rotenberg found that chickens in Melbourne are soaked before kashering at a temperature of 4C. Rabbi Rotenberg said that this is not the standard (lechatchila) and chickens processed this way were only acceptable after the fact (b’dieved). He said they must develop a system “similar to the system in Sydney”(!!).<br /><br />THIS IS A LIE!! I spoke to Rabbi Rottenberg a short while ago.David from Melbournenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1843426103950643279.post-31054930464048885822010-05-31T12:27:07.570+10:002010-05-31T12:27:07.570+10:00How come at the last Wedding using a cheaper (Melb...How come at the last Wedding using a cheaper (Melbourne) caterer Gutnicks problem was "SHECHITA CHUTZ" (He found an old rule not to take meat from one town to the other)<br />and this time he dropped this Halacha of his?<br /><br />Choose the rule that suits your pocket!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1843426103950643279.post-13845983111608288402010-05-31T11:59:12.896+10:002010-05-31T11:59:12.896+10:00.........."Get off your high horse, read the ............."Get off your high horse, read the facts, the facts compiled by the very Rabbi's who Melbourne brought out. Keep in mind all this came about through a Rabbi mocking our kashrut"..............<br /><br /># Mr Anonymous! You seem to come from another planet! <br />Nobody is mocking anybody besides our wise 'unity' Rabbis who wrote this shameful letter. It is them who through their Sinat-Chinam is giving Lubavitch a bad name.<br /><br />IT IS WRONG TO PUBLICLY ATTACK OTHERS WHO ARE JUST JUST TRYING TO LET PEOPLE AFFORD KOSHER CATERING.Belindanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1843426103950643279.post-85229919980664344122010-05-31T10:25:23.985+10:002010-05-31T10:25:23.985+10:00When I was in Israel recently, I was told by a Cha...When I was in Israel recently, I was told by a Chabad rabbi that visitors from his community to Australia don't eat the meat because the shechting (in all parts of the country!) are not up to standard...<br /><br />Apparently, Australian law requries the animal to be stunned, but the shochtim (who are themselves Chabad) have found a way around it. I'd be interested to hear how this works.<br /><br />In the meantime, I will continue to buy Melbourne meat from the supermarket...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1843426103950643279.post-16267908486719660862010-05-31T09:30:40.286+10:002010-05-31T09:30:40.286+10:00Rabbi Gutnick - You attacked Rabbi Blackman as you...Rabbi Gutnick - You attacked Rabbi Blackman as you were scared on competition. You lost your job.<br /><br />Only a fool doesn't learn from their mistakes.<br /><br />If you continue attacking competition to your Kashrut business you might loose out once again.<br /><br />It's time to grow up!Bondi Boynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1843426103950643279.post-65451254759032846492010-05-31T08:26:44.596+10:002010-05-31T08:26:44.596+10:00Ah, the truth hurts. For too long has sydney sat q...Ah, the truth hurts. For too long has sydney sat quiet and been ridiculed by the haters of Lubavitch. These Rabbonim where called out by the Melbourne Rabbis, the Melbourne Rabbis are now asking sydney advice on how to recitfy their issues.Stop. People for the most part know nothing about the laws of kashrut and our city has been bashed for years by the very same people who have a hatred for Lubavitch and all it has achieved in this city. What a joke, education of kids, mikvah, divorces and kashrut. Get off your high horse, read the facts, the facts compiled by the very Rabbi's who Melbourne brought out. Keep in mind all this came about through a Rabbi mocking our kashrut. Just look at his track record.... a real achiever.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1843426103950643279.post-40801270336180955022010-05-31T08:19:05.022+10:002010-05-31T08:19:05.022+10:00Rachel, there is a saying...
Silence Breeds Corru...Rachel, there is a saying...<br /><br />Silence Breeds Corruption!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1843426103950643279.post-91789004616650854992010-05-31T07:53:41.037+10:002010-05-31T07:53:41.037+10:00Sydney deserves better that this Business Monopoly...Sydney deserves better that this Business Monopoly called 'Kashrut unity'. <br /><br />Nobody has suggested that the Sydney meat is not Kosher but I suspect that some of our Rabbis are not Glatt Kosher or truthful.Belindanoreply@blogger.com