tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1843426103950643279.post3033622355132315175..comments2023-07-12T12:34:46.767+10:00Comments on AJN Watch: Apologists of J-wire's Chilul Shabbat - please noteAJN WATCHhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02706063020449126800noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1843426103950643279.post-35634602072542167792012-06-24T09:51:14.297+10:002012-06-24T09:51:14.297+10:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1843426103950643279.post-25965102817044660602011-04-24T14:54:14.003+10:002011-04-24T14:54:14.003+10:00In response to austlsr, I would say that it isn&#...In response to austlsr, I would say that it isn't the role of AJNwatch - or any blog - to be doing kiruv work and/or getting people to refrain from chilul shabbat. <br />That is the role of the rabbis in our community.<br /><br />(And I have no doubt that Henry B is a reader of this blog and knows well that he is upsetting frum Jews.)<br /><br />Being a subscriber of J-Wire it is clear that its owner Mr Benjamin is on pretty close terms with the Sydney Yeshiva Centre and its myriad of rabbis. J-Wire reports always praises their activities(which is good.) <br />It also carries a weekly column form another successful Chabad rabbi in Sydney - Rabbi Gourarie.<br /><br />Shouldn't some or all of these rabbis be working to influence their 'mate' to stop public desecration of Shabbat and YT? That makes more sense than asking an anonymous blog to do so and has far better chance at success.<br /><br />It wasn't so long ago that Australia's Chabad-Lubavitch rabbis were at the forefront of encouraging more and more Jews to keep Shabbat (and generally all mitzvot). <br /><br />That seems to have changed with many of them - especially the younger generation - becoming 'politically correct' and refraining from making such 'hard' demands from our unaffiliated Jews. <br /><br />Yes they put tefilin on them every now and then, bring them some matza on Pesach and have them shake a lulav. <br /><br />But what about shemirat shabbat? Why is it so rare to hear about any efforts in that direction?<br /><br />I happen to know that in Sydney Rabbi Blackman and a number of others do try to promote this and have been quite succesful. In Melb I understand that the beth hatalmud Kollel, merkaz Hatorah, Rabbi Berlin and a few others do similar work.<br /><br />But where are the approx 50-60 Chabad rabbis and shlichim who operate all across Australia? When was the last time that we heard or saw anything published about keeping Shabbat?<br /><br />True they do continue to encourage candle-lighting by mums and daughters, which is commendable.<br /><br />But,which BTW if done too late - has the lighters committing chilul shabbat. Yes I know they are asked to light before sunset, but with irreligious and halachically ignorant people, this request often isn't taken seriously and is of no great significance, as they usually light at the 'shabbat dinner' - which is well past sunset.<br /><br />Hopefully now that this is being aired publically someone will talk to HB and convince him to send out Friday's posts early in the PM and Saturday's after Motzash.Jose of Bondinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1843426103950643279.post-86000194070498824592011-04-24T14:24:46.944+10:002011-04-24T14:24:46.944+10:00Dan, I cannot agree with you. It wasn't the at...Dan, I cannot agree with you. It wasn't the attendance of a few Jews that made the council change its mind. Just like teh attendance of so many Jew-haters there also didn't make any difference to the outcome.<br /><br />On the first 2 nights of Pesach every Jew should be sitting with his/her family at the Seder - discussing Hashem's miracles against far greater and more dangerous enemies than Fiona Byrne and her cohorts. <br />LaHashem hayeshuah!Chaimnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1843426103950643279.post-619227782755856202011-04-24T05:26:49.938+10:002011-04-24T05:26:49.938+10:00I was one of the commentators on the previous occa...I was one of the commentators on the previous occasions that AJN Watch exposed chillul Shabbos at jwire.com.au. At that time I was dan l'kaf zchus, but it appears that the only conclusion one can come to given the latest proof is that there was indeed chillul yom tov. I agree that it is shameful that a website for Jews, about Jews ,and by Jews publishes on days when halachah dictates that it is assur to do so.<br /><br />However, I reiterate a suggestion that I previously made: Has AJN Watch or others sought to establish contact with Henry Benjamin, suggesting that he institute a new policy of not publishing on yom tov or Shabbos? Surely the argument is that this is the most appropriate and respectful approach to follow for a Jewish website.<br /><br />As for the AJN and its publication of the Marrickville issue, I happen to know that the paper is open for business on second day Yom Tov. Frum staff members who wish to take second day off will need to use up their annual leave to do so.<br /><br />However, if only chillul Shabbos at the AJN was the only matter to be concerned about! The kashrus of advertisers is another concern, as is news stories and ads for events by groups and businesses that are open on Shabbos and/or provide services that are forbidden by the Torah...<br /><br />The issue has been one ever since the AJN advertised bellydancing at Hakoah in Sydney on Friday nights in the 1970s...<br /><br />The AJN as a commercial enterprise is never likely to backtrack from its approach. However, as jwire.com.au is owned and run by an individual, we're in with a fighting chance to influence the site's policy.AustIsrnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1843426103950643279.post-83103155025457846152011-04-22T17:10:24.818+10:002011-04-22T17:10:24.818+10:00Well I for one am glad that a number of Jewish peo...Well I for one am glad that a number of Jewish people attended the disgusting Marrickville Council's meeting.<br /><br />Had they not, it is possible they would have continued their anti-Semitic boycott of Israel which should be a bigger problem for you than the other matter discussed in this thread.Dannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1843426103950643279.post-1434821535522693462011-04-22T13:16:12.810+10:002011-04-22T13:16:12.810+10:00Sorry, you are correct. I apologise to both you an...Sorry, you are correct. I apologise to both you an d the AJNGeorgenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1843426103950643279.post-18863051782065472022011-04-22T06:51:31.573+10:002011-04-22T06:51:31.573+10:00In reply to George... you are just wrong.
Read the...In reply to George... you are just wrong.<br />Read the paper.<br /><br />It has the Marrickville mayor on the front but in the paper it doesn't actually have the decision.<br /><br />It says the paper was finished before the vote happened and so in the paper it doesn't actauly report what happened at the meeting.<br /><br />Check your facts before you accuse people. Go and read it now before you reply.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1843426103950643279.post-74017219681490176572011-04-22T02:21:56.837+10:002011-04-22T02:21:56.837+10:00reply to anon 2.33
you obviously don't know a...reply to anon 2.33<br />you obviously don't know about this but there is a an electronic version of the full AJN of both the Melb and Syndye editions available via a site called pressdisplay.com.<br />(Reading it ther costs more than the printed edition - go figure!)<br /><br />That was available Wednesday night before 9.31 pm - and included the Marrickville affair.<br /><br />So when do you think the article was reported typset and printed???Georgenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1843426103950643279.post-21224497901901322142011-04-22T02:16:16.143+10:002011-04-22T02:16:16.143+10:00Anon according to you the Torah is (Chas veShalom)...Anon according to you the Torah is (Chas veShalom) full of sinas chinom! Eg 'mechaleleho mos yumos'<br /><br />Exposing and condemning chily sgabbos and other torah desecrations is part of 'hoche'ach tochiach es amisecho'<br /><br />Please hoch nisht in chaynikurlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1843426103950643279.post-20172062291656499132011-04-21T21:58:19.888+10:002011-04-21T21:58:19.888+10:00Well done AJN Watch for exposing chilul shabbos. B...Well done AJN Watch for exposing chilul shabbos. But sinas chinom (hatred for ones fellow Jew) is also against the torah, and your blog is full of that, and always was since it started. <br /><br />The only difference is that henry benjamin does not pretend to be a frum Jw. Ye you do. the chilu hashem you make is therefore far greater...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1843426103950643279.post-20957066275964126462011-04-21T14:33:14.189+10:002011-04-21T14:33:14.189+10:00Can I please correct George.
The AJN's online ...Can I please correct George.<br />The AJN's online or print edition did not have the Marrickville decision.<br />As noted in the actual paper, the article relating to Marrickville went online AFTER yom tov went out on Wednesday night.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1843426103950643279.post-57421892527820137762011-04-21T14:23:23.278+10:002011-04-21T14:23:23.278+10:00Henry Benjamin will be surprised to learn that he ...Henry Benjamin will be surprised to learn that he is a sabra! And Joe, if you knew the halacha you'd realise that even an israeli isn't allowed to publicly desecrate Yt in Chul.assangenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1843426103950643279.post-12933681555127002292011-04-21T06:24:06.085+10:002011-04-21T06:24:06.085+10:00Israelis.Israelis.Joe in Australianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1843426103950643279.post-31050609729294789192011-04-21T01:36:48.433+10:002011-04-21T01:36:48.433+10:00Joe, you still under the effect of the 4 kosos? We...Joe, you still under the effect of the 4 kosos? Wednesday was chol hamoed? For who?assangenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1843426103950643279.post-34908415755364479102011-04-20T23:15:23.749+10:002011-04-20T23:15:23.749+10:00Please correct the list of defenders; my name was ...Please correct the list of defenders; my name was omitted, and I would be ashamed to have people think that I failed to defend Jews to the best of my ability on the basis of what was known at the time.<br /><br />As for this instance, it's hardly the smoking gun you're looking for. The email was apparently written at 1:00 AM Wednesday morning - that is, on the first day of <i>chol hamoed</i> for many residents of Australia.Joe in Australianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1843426103950643279.post-62287261759791694242011-04-20T22:14:50.267+10:002011-04-20T22:14:50.267+10:00As long as harry benjamin writes nice stories abou...As long as harry benjamin writes nice stories about Sydney yeshiva and their big kitchen no one is gonna say a word to him about his blatant chilul shabbos.<br /><br />However should he for any reason 'turn' and write a few negative pieces, then watch the bullets fly!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1843426103950643279.post-74548606512445819532011-04-20T22:11:43.819+10:002011-04-20T22:11:43.819+10:00And the AJN? It's electronic edition (which is...And the AJN? It's electronic edition (which is replica of the printed one) is already out tonight - and includes a full report on the Marrickville circus. <br /><br />Nice yomtov and "jewish" media people had..Georgenoreply@blogger.com