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Radio - Spiritgrow supports Chillul Shabbat?AJN WATCHhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02706063020449126800noreply@blogger.comBlogger42125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1843426103950643279.post-59486755524437564652010-05-16T23:27:35.968+10:002010-05-16T23:27:35.968+10:00Further to our receipt of a response from Lion FM ...Further to our receipt of a response from Lion FM which we have posted, there will be no further comments accepted for this post.<br /><br />If you have something to say, please do so here: http://tinyurl.com/2e5vlo7 .AJN WATCHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02706063020449126800noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1843426103950643279.post-50577328054053082592010-05-16T21:45:45.314+10:002010-05-16T21:45:45.314+10:00tommy - Kedushas Shabbos and Shemiras Shabbos and ...tommy - Kedushas Shabbos and Shemiras Shabbos and 'working out a method to broadcast prerecorded on Shabbat....' as you have stated, are not synonymous. If the radio station has constraints, so be it. We expect our Rabbonim to uphold the Shabbos and not to look for loopholes, especially from an organization that blatantly also states in their constitution that they will broadcast on Yom Tov.Arinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1843426103950643279.post-91437319606363147172010-05-16T15:56:03.448+10:002010-05-16T15:56:03.448+10:00if this blog riles up Tommy and his mates, it show...if this blog riles up Tommy and his mates, it shows what a great job is being done. <br />The community needs rilers and rilees and me personally am happy that ajn watch is a rilesenglebertnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1843426103950643279.post-80807740675794033292010-05-16T15:54:18.162+10:002010-05-16T15:54:18.162+10:00tommy, no way there's going to come a psak fro...tommy, no way there's going to come a psak from rabbis allowing shabbat broadcasting. That is unless you hold the reform clergy to be 'rabbis'. Yes I know that they allow many questionable things, but they wouldn't dare to go that far.<br /><br />Anyway it would be interesting to see who the radios rabbis are and then we'll discuss the other matters. <br /><br />I am no rabbi, so I'll leave source-citing to them. But maris ayin comes up immediately.<br />Jewish radio broadcasting in whatever way looks very bad.manfrednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1843426103950643279.post-21488826597834056292010-05-16T15:08:52.817+10:002010-05-16T15:08:52.817+10:00manfred and co, waht will you do if the lion stati...manfred and co, waht will you do if the lion station come out with a psak for a leading rav/rabbanim that they have worked out a method to broadcast prerecorded on shabbat- due to the constraints of the radio station?<br /><br />will there be a public apology?<br /><br />what happens when three or four prominent rabbanim in melbourne end up on the radio station- are ytou going to call for their heads?<br /><br />when will someone on this blog actualy cite a source for the transgressions that lion fm are commiting?<br /><br />i now realise that this blog is not a place for me as it gets me riled up. it anoyes me that people are so one sided and choose not to investigate before laying accusations.tommynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1843426103950643279.post-66740079406633882392010-05-15T20:09:42.079+10:002010-05-15T20:09:42.079+10:00Dovid shaer writes: in attempting to be mechale...Dovid shaer writes: in attempting to be mechalel shem hashem befar hesye with all the fremde who read this as well.<br />>><br />With the greatest respect to you what you wrote is a pure garbage and a falsification of the Torah. Chazel tell us 'bemokom sheyesh chilul Hashem ein cholkin kavod larav' which means you must attack and criticise issues of chilul hashem. Thus when a rabbinically approved mechalel shabbos issue arises there is no kavod harav. <br />Fremde or no fremde. <br /><br />The whole Torah is full of statements that may embarrass you before fremde. So you want to hide the torah? What kind of nonsense are you preaching?<br /><br />this blog is doing a great job in articulating the views of many frum australian families whose voice has been unheard for a long time. Besides a few brave rabbis (I especially commend Rabbi Ingram) and individuals, one rarely hears the voice of orthodox protesters. I don;t recall a single rabbi's complaint to teh AJN when they so despicably tried to destroy a rabbis reputation or when they did all in their power to damage a community because of one bad apple there. Had this blog been around, maybe there would have been some response.<br /><br />Personally I feel that the jewish news has in the past months treated frum issues with a bit more respect and presume that this blog may be part of the reason for it. (And possibly their new editor should be given some of the credit)<br /><br />But Dovid in your way of thinking frum Jews should just sit back and cop it in the face.<br /><br />I say, you are very vey wrong. Fight fire with fireyehudi misydneynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1843426103950643279.post-32258624787543319462010-05-15T19:54:50.781+10:002010-05-15T19:54:50.781+10:00Dovid, I don't think you are correct. AJNWATCH...Dovid, I don't think you are correct. AJNWATCH has done the right thing by getting rid of inappropriate advertising. And as indeed Ajnwatch has done in the past and blasted the Jewish News for publicising chilul shabbos and chazir tref establishments - so too should this blog be careful on what it allows to be advertised.<br /><br />And the same goes for spiritgrow which amongst its various functions runs a shul - presumably orthodox. As such it's rabbis who are chasidim should not be assiting in chilul shabbos. I wouldve thought that was quite obvious and understandable by all.yaakovnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1843426103950643279.post-51997250338468197302010-05-14T10:39:39.855+10:002010-05-14T10:39:39.855+10:00ajnwatch you missed my point and cynicism- you don...ajnwatch you missed my point and cynicism- you dont need to remove the add halachikly, i am showing you how obsurd your theory is. this has been discussed by dozerns of poskim- ad services like google etc (which do not lead to mamash asur websites) are not your responsibility. it is up to the (internet) user to control themselves it is not even lifnei iver. you could barely even call it midah chasidus- hamodia chumrah maybe (but then again hamodiah style people arent aloud internet full stop)- perhaps you should subscribe to hydepark to realy see fum/torah blogging<br /><br />but the fact that you removed the ad is impressive but highlights the fact that you do not use halachah to back your position rather new age chumrah (which can not justify loss of income). <br /><br />based on this i can only say you (your blog) represent chumrah based judaism not halachah based judaism. that does not give you the right to always criticize those who do not live up to your standards.<br /><br />i find that some of your posts i agree with (though i find you negative, attitude wise) but sometimes i feel you are short of the mark. in this case i dont know what spiritgrows agenda is here (they opened up after i left melbourne), but to say that they condone chilul shabbos is a little far fetched. perhaps in your very strict arena it is unsettling but not contravening torah.<br /><br />i am more distraught by the number of people on this blog who enjoy keeping the rabbanim straight and apreciate your fine work- when in truth this blog doesnt have much credibility or respect due to the faceless accusers who write and comment. no face/name no credibility or respect<br /><br />as everyone else here (who is enjoying the circus) has written, keep up the good work... in attempting to be mechalel shem hashem befar hesye with all the fremde who read this as well.Dovid Sher (ex melbourne)noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1843426103950643279.post-34106561059652234802010-05-14T02:06:37.475+10:002010-05-14T02:06:37.475+10:00I agree with Leah K. AJNwatch has far more interes...I agree with Leah K. AJNwatch has far more interesting stuff that most other Jerwish blogs that I frequent. And I particularly enjoy thei comments on the Australian scene. So keep it up for all of us.Georgenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1843426103950643279.post-16484073508569008572010-05-14T02:04:34.868+10:002010-05-14T02:04:34.868+10:00well done ajnwatch, the ads have disappeared!
hope...well done ajnwatch, the ads have disappeared!<br />hope you aren't losing too much money by deleting themG B Shawnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1843426103950643279.post-81301944665426609932010-05-14T00:11:27.910+10:002010-05-14T00:11:27.910+10:00Dovid, you mak a good point. Unfortunately we have...Dovid, you mak a good point. Unfortunately we have no control over the types of advertisements placed on our blog.<br /><br />Therefore we shall try and get rid of them altogether.AJN WATCHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02706063020449126800noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1843426103950643279.post-9936378281583787762010-05-13T21:55:32.944+10:002010-05-13T21:55:32.944+10:00couldnt help but notice the ad on the side of my p...couldnt help but notice the ad on the side of my page filled with non jewish half exposed girls for zoosk dating. according to the ajnwatch logic he is condoning intermarriage!stupid argument (dovid for short)noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1843426103950643279.post-46627067613365585692010-05-13T21:42:20.222+10:002010-05-13T21:42:20.222+10:00oh manfred i just realised what an am haaretz you ...oh manfred i just realised what an am haaretz you are. you would probably call r' moshe feinstin modern and somewhat problematic if he lived today. you evidently have not done your research. shame.<br /><br />i will be sure to let the many of the black hat rabanim who speak on galatz and appear on chanel 2 (israel) and write for the chiloni websites in israel that they have contravened some obscure halachah that only a blogger named manfred knows about.<br /><br />and you dont sound like one who would accept a less religeous jew as a brother.tommynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1843426103950643279.post-83867349602999682092010-05-13T21:42:01.933+10:002010-05-13T21:42:01.933+10:00Schneur - that 24/7 was not 'figurative' (...Schneur - that 24/7 was not 'figurative' (whatever that means).That is how they advertised in the Jewish News and they clearly state that they will have prerecorded broadcasting on Shabbat.<br /><br />There are enough rabbis and frum apologists around who 'set good examples' tp the irreligous, but very few who are brave enough to clearly state the Torah view. Ajnwatch aim is to be a vigourous defender of torah and the torah observant community. We sure need it here. Let's back it rather than criticiseYechi on a bicyclenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1843426103950643279.post-38313439181211003732010-05-13T21:34:44.067+10:002010-05-13T21:34:44.067+10:00Tommy: ajnwatch sounds like a bigoted, closed mind...Tommy: ajnwatch sounds like a bigoted, closed minded, naive person who has more emotion than intellectual ability.<br /><br />Hi Tommy, I am a newbie here and have spent the past days going through the many posts on this blog.<br /><br />I have found some amazing news items which I haven't seen elsewhere, humourous commentary and indeed a some vigourous defence of genuine Judaism. That last item is sorely lacking in our communities with rabbis and organisations prefering to shrug their shoulders rather than address issues that are of supreme importance to Torah-observant Jews.<br /><br />Ajnwatch is going a long way to try a fill this gap and for this they should be supported and congratulated. Illok forward to reading their further postsLeah Knoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1843426103950643279.post-10031704425596390602010-05-13T21:29:32.436+10:002010-05-13T21:29:32.436+10:00yes tommy anyone who in any way offers any support...yes tommy anyone who in any way offers any support to a radio station broadcsting on shabbat is condining chilul shabbat. I don't know who ajnwatch is is but you definitely sound like someone who doesn't care much for shabbat and mitzvotmanfrednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1843426103950643279.post-24107303433675503942010-05-13T10:53:06.082+10:002010-05-13T10:53:06.082+10:00manfred, how many orthodox websites operate on sha...manfred, how many orthodox websites operate on shabbat, how many radio stations in israel operate on shabat (and have religious participation during the week from many respected rabbanim in israel)are you going to say that they are condoning chilul shabbat? <br /><br />ajnwatch sounds like a bigoted, closed minded, naive person who has more emotion than intellectual ability. all i am saying is find out whether they are speaking to rabbanim and then question them (if you mob are so smart and learned and realy know the complex halachot of technology on shabbat) dont knock the station and bad mouth other people.tommynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1843426103950643279.post-89410113248748833712010-05-13T09:26:16.669+10:002010-05-13T09:26:16.669+10:00You mean you never use the expression 24/7 figurat...You mean you never use the expression 24/7 figuratively? And if someone has any doubt about a Jew isn't there a halocho to check it out before rushing into defaming print? And if now you discover that you were wrong in fact, isn't it ocrrect to do Teshuva and ask Mechilo? And if you are frum, then doesn't Perek say "Geder LeChochmo Shetiko"? And have you set a good example for the non frum people reading your lines? And if your strtegy is to improve a perceived Matzav and help correct it then aren't you actually doing the opposite? SchneurSchneurnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1843426103950643279.post-6136627932384585452010-05-13T00:19:13.831+10:002010-05-13T00:19:13.831+10:00Tommy stop being so outraged. Their ad in the AJN ...Tommy stop being so outraged. Their ad in the AJN clearly said that they will be broadcasting 24/7 as does thi statement of theirs:<br /><br />>>> Programme Schedule<br />>>> the station will transmit only pre-recorded material over the sabbath. ...<<<<br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melbourne_Jewish_Radio#cite_note-2manfrednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1843426103950643279.post-37379896177909558742010-05-12T15:43:39.299+10:002010-05-12T15:43:39.299+10:00hey zealots! i took the trouble to speak to the or...hey zealots! i took the trouble to speak to the organizers of this station and they have said outright that it is not going to be open on shbbat. not only that but they are in constant contact with local rabbanim to workout how to deal with the various problems that may arise. so before slander check!<br /><br />why not go to their meeting and ask them. ask the rabbis wolf. ask someone before you publish this, it opens you up to serious legal defamation issues. fools.tommynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1843426103950643279.post-34045326890481271372010-05-12T14:52:36.112+10:002010-05-12T14:52:36.112+10:00Further to my previous comment, ACMA advise:
&quo...Further to my <a href="http://ajnwatch.blogspot.com/2010/05/melbourne-jewish-radio-spiritgrow.html?showComment=1273507215824#c2347982364808422261" rel="nofollow">previous comment</a>, ACMA advise:<br /><br /><i>"The apparatus licence for the frequency has not yet been issued. The service is not due to begin until June this year. Application details are not available to the public, when the licence is issued it will be visible on the ACMA’s online Register of Radiocommunications Licences"</i>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1843426103950643279.post-38507425307955936932010-05-11T20:01:53.509+10:002010-05-11T20:01:53.509+10:00Does anyone know which member/s of the COSV approv...Does anyone know which member/s of the COSV approved this ?Jonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1843426103950643279.post-23479823648084222612010-05-11T02:00:15.825+10:002010-05-11T02:00:15.825+10:00A little off topic, but I was trying to find out m...A little off topic, but I was trying to find out more about Melbourne Jewish Radio/Lion FM. From what I can see there is absolutely nothing about the station on the ACMA web site. I can't find it in a <a href="http://web.acma.gov.au/pls/radcom/register_search.main_page?pSEARCH_TYPE=Licences" rel="nofollow">search</a> of license holders (or via the frequency, ABN, etc etc), and I can't see it in the <a href="http://www.acma.gov.au/webwr/_assets/main/lib100052/lic027_current_tcbls.pdf" rel="nofollow">list of stations</a> who have currently been allocated a Temporary Community Broadcast License.<br /><br />The AJN <a href="http://jewishnews.net.au/2010/03/11/jewish-radio-set-to-roar/12341" rel="nofollow">announced</a> the station had been allocated a licence back in March this year so you'd think an ACMA document from April listing current temporary licences would contain the MJR/Lion license details.<br /><br />Curious.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1843426103950643279.post-28217490096350559502010-05-09T14:30:14.507+10:002010-05-09T14:30:14.507+10:00Malki - no one is assuming anything.
They quite cl...Malki - no one is assuming anything.<br />They quite clearly state : ".....It is notable that the station will transmit only pre-recorded material over the sabbath.....".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1843426103950643279.post-91733935863495851852010-05-09T14:19:52.510+10:002010-05-09T14:19:52.510+10:00Dear Ajnwatch
I have only found your site a coupl...Dear Ajnwatch<br /><br />I have only found your site a couple of days ago and am slowly weaving my way through ALL your posts (and comments). It's a labour of love and will take me a week or 2.<br /><br />However, I wish to thank you from the bottom of my heart for giving Melbourne - and indeed - Australian orthodox Jewry - a voice.<br /><br />A voice that talks without the PC-ish nonsense that we so often hear from Orthodox leadership, who know better but are afraid to state the genuine truth for fear of offending those who have no such fear in attacking and offending us and the holy Torah.<br /><br />You are doing Avodas Hakodesh including fighting for our holy Shabbos in exposing the new chilul shabbos radio [and demanding an explanation from rabbi wolf of spiritgrow] and also the besen centre chilul shabbos matter.<br /><br />Keep it up and Chazak ve'amatz<br /><br />Leah K.Leahnoreply@blogger.com